Ep 193: Dumb B!tch Hour. ChatGPT Update, Too Much Studio Ghibli, Special Guest Mike from Rainbow Wallet, Nikita Bier joins Solana, 23andMe Goes Bust, Gwyneth Paltrow v. Megan Markle Psyops, Sam Altman Thirsty Tweet

[00:01] Dumb Shower is a weekly live chat on all things tech, crypto and pop culture news brought to you by Boys Club, a New York based media and creative studio. DVH is hosted by myself, Dina Burke and Natasha Hoskins. Hi. Co-founders, marketers and entrepreneurs that have built our careers in new tech and startups. We're also proudly the dumbest bitches in the room and we love to learn in public. DVH is recorded live and best consumed as a video podcast. Here's this week's show. [00:31] you [00:33] Should we get started here? Let's do it. [00:35] Okay, great. Welcome to DBH... [00:39] Dumbitch Hour by Boys Club. We're so honored and excited to be here with you today. We live stream every Wednesday at this time. [00:46] so noon eastern [00:48] Noon Eastern, if you like to hang out with us, this is a good thing to put in your calendar and come back next week. [00:56] Any other introductory housekeeping things before we get started here? Dumpage Hour is just birthed out of the idea that... [01:06] If you... [01:07] Call yourself a dumb bitch. You can say whatever you want. So we do that here. We learn together. Like this is a low stakes environment to learn about tech, pop culture, the timeline, Twitter. We have a lot of fun. I'm Natasha. [01:25] That's Dina and Kate. Kate, you have to speak. Kate waved. Well, I don't have my microphone with me, so I'm on this like, I didn't want to ruin the audio too much. No problem. Okay, so we're going to get into it. Yeah, I just want to run through the agenda really quickly today. Here are some things that we're going to cover today. We're going to talk about the ChatTPT update. We are going to talk about Nikita Beer joining Solana as an advisor, the 23andMe drama. We will

[01:55] Farkaster join us today to chat about just some stuff with him. [02:02] We are going to talk about the group chat drama. [02:07] of the Trump administration. And then we have some quick hits at the end, a couple of funny Sam Altman tweets. And I think that's most of it. [02:17] Did I get all of it? Okay. Good job. [02:21] Oop. [02:21] Go ahead. Oh, I was just going to say that some of the quick hits, it varies in seriousness. And as always, wait, stay to the end. [02:36] Serious about being unserious. Yeah, totally. OK, Dina, tell us what we're looking at. OK, so first of all, Polygon supports this. [02:47] live stream and supports boys club. And we are so love them as partners. They, it's truly an incredible team and they're so wonderful to us and really give us a long leash to have fun and to experiment. And they, um, yeah, sponsor, um, [03:04] Dumb bitch hour and are coming to join us at the net gala, our second annual. [03:12] Net Gala. [03:14] We did the first one last year. That's what second annual means. And it will be the first Friday, May, May 2nd. And if you came to last year's NetGala, [03:23] you know, if you didn't, basically what the Net Gala is, is a subversive take on the Met Gala, which happens that same, that happens that Monday. But ours is an internet version. And there's going to be art and there'll be fashion and fun people. And yeah, Polygon's in on it with us. And anything else that we want to talk about with the Net Gala? A lot more to come on it soon. A lot more to come on it soon. We'll be announcing a bunch of stuff over the next few weeks.

[03:53] We'll be in Brooklyn. We are very close to locking a very cool venue. So yeah, last year was just an incredible time and you'll be seeing it on the timeline. So, [04:05] Put it on your calendar, Friday, May 2nd. Yeah, RSVPs are not yet open, but will be in the next, I would say, week, optimistically. Okay. Great. And it's in New York. Okay, so let's jump in here. ChatGPT update. Natasha, take it away. Okay, so ChatGPT had an update that happened this week. They launched a new feature called 4.0. [04:30] and it is primarily an image generator for ChatGPT and Sora platforms. And it essentially allows users to generate and edit images directly in the chat interface. And people are losing their mind. [04:45] and posting a lot about it one thing there's a few main things that i think are exceptional about this new update one is their ability to blend images and texts so if you're listening and not watching this is a image a screenshot from open ai with a picture that was generated using this new update and it has very clear text with no issues and historically as many people know [05:10] These models and these tools have not done a great job of being able to blend image and text. And they always come out like weird. Iconically, we had a really cheap ass bot that was in our Discord. This was probably two years ago. And people were playing around with it. And people would put in prompts. And I won't say who, but someone put in a prompt that said, in the style of live, laugh, love.

[05:39] create a [05:41] image that says, um, [05:44] live laugh ketamine and it didn't work. Um, if that prompt happened today, it would in fact work. So that's a major update. We're so back. And it mostly is like the letters get all warped and stuff. Like it doesn't, you can't read it's like, it's a nonsense word that comes out, but like, this is clear, clear as day. Um, and then the other updates that are very obvious to me or [06:14] very very realistic um and then ability to run with a creative direction so what we've been seeing on the timeline that [06:21] is just taken over is studio ghibli everybody is now an anime character on the timeline so we can go to some of these next slides here um so wait the one before this really quick i love this tweet uh gm to studio ghibli's ip lawyer only i know that man is going through it today uh truly truly and then the other uh you're not entering that you are now entering the infinite scroll of chat gpt [06:51] uh it is basically what people are taking is iconic images screenshots their own images and then having chat gpt apply studio ghibli [07:01] vibe creative direction to it um so this one is the iconic scene from succession where uh his ex-wife tells him you're too online okay you've lost context everything is fine which is funny um and then of course elon elon musk

[07:19] It's so good. The image from this weekend where he's balancing a spoon and a fork. [07:25] Okay, I want to pause here on this one because Kate had... [07:30] an incredible post that I don't think got enough credit this weekend where it was so [07:37] The context here is Elon was at some event, I think at the White House or Mar-a-Lago or something, and he is doing a really stupid thing. [07:45] And they caught it on 4K. He's caught on 4K. He's like, he's balancing a spoon and a fork and a knife together and like holding it up. And it's just like, I'm... [07:57] It's [07:59] dumb. Like it comes off as just dumb and everyone's like, what is he doing? And I think also really speaks into the, the idea of this man having, being neurodivergent. Yeah. It's a, yeah. Proof point to that. And so anyway, that goes viral and it's a weird video and you see it and you're like, what's going on here? [08:24] Kate, [08:26] The first person I saw actually to reenact it was our friend Kate here on the live stream. Incredible post where you did it. And I think you did do it better. You did do it better. Thank you so much. And I don't know why I didn't get more action, but I really love it. My friends were like, what are you doing? And I was like, it's a bit. Let me show you the reference. And then they were like, we have, I'm like, you haven't seen this. And they're like, no, we're not online like you. This is insane. It's so funny. Yeah, it was really funny, Kate. I feel like you should probably retweet it.

[08:56] Okay, Kate, you identified the next trend that's going to be after Studio Ghibli. What's that? It's the Muppet one for sure. So now we're prompting... [09:05] generate this image but make a Muppet like and so here we have the famous [09:11] Ryan Gosling from Blade Runner 2049, where he's all bloodied up. So good. [09:17] As a Muppet. [09:19] Okay. [09:20] but like a sad Muppet. Like this is sad in the image. We should have put the reference. Maybe we should have put the reference. Yeah. It looks just like this, but not Muppet. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. This is my feeling. Honestly, this has been, and for those who are listening, it's the Selena. [09:43] I almost said Selena Gomez. Oh my gosh. Brain rot. Selena Vander. [09:47] What's her name? Vanna Bell. Gossip Girl star. Gossip Girl. Gossip Girl character. Gossip Girl character where she's walking down the street with her flip phone and then she throws it in the trash. And I said the feeling was Studio Ghibli. And I feel this way actually about Twitter all week where it has just been unbearable to me. Like Monday, half a Tuesday, all we're getting is morning routine guy. And then Wednesday week up, we wake up and all we're getting is Studio Ghibli. [10:17] of the world. [10:18] different bits. There needs to be multiple bits on the timeline. It can't be one bit because it, I, I, it's making me like, I literally want to throw my phone away. And then I'm like, oh my gosh, what a blessing. The soul to get off Twitter, but like, I can't, I can't do that. I will not know heart. Anyway, I, it's just, wow. Um, okay. I think the thing here though, is that folks are saying that it's, um,

[10:44] um [10:46] a big deal to be able to take an established creative format or concept and be able to actually now [10:54] remix that with whatever it is, person, image, idea that you want to remix it with. And like, and the image generators, the AI image generators had been like, [11:05] kind of 50% of the way there over the past whatever year and a half, two years, but have, you've always looked at it and you've been like, this is, [11:12] sucks yeah this is garbage but i think with the pseudo ghibli one the moffat's one i'm sure we're [11:21] it's mostly just speaking to like what's possible with [11:25] the tech, I think. Totally. And it is, it is extraordinary. Like in terms of campaign creation, them... [11:33] the tool being able to get the text right unlocks a lot for people. [11:38] creative direction specifically or i think around advertising and campaigns totally so there's a lot of good references in the deck here around that i just want to go to the last slide here um graphic designers are cooked question mark um question mark exclamation point i don't think so i don't think so but i would be kind of shitting it if i were a graphic designer i do have to say i'd be like whoa [12:01] Okay, what's my fresh perspective on this? I think it's just like anything else, a good graphic designer will be able to use it as a tool to be able to make them more money. [12:10] Totally. I love that. Okay. Mike is here. [12:14] Mike's here. Mike's here. Maybe we take the deck down and we bring Mike up and we get into it. Hi, how's it going?

[12:25] What's up, guys? Is it working okay? Yeah, can you pull your screen? Like, could you either sit up a little bit more or pull your screen? You're just like right at the bottom. Great. [12:36] let's go oh there we go we got there very slowly we're improving what's up guys thanks for having me i'm honored to be here [12:47] to have you on dumb bitch hour that is has it always been the dumb bitch hour um no only in our hearts i like it [12:54] Okay. I like the rebrand. Thank you. Thank you very much. That's really kind. We like it as well. It has been [13:03] internally dumb bitch hour but getting it out into the world in that way uh is is different i didn't make my bed dude thanks for thanks for shouting out i appreciate that um okay we have a lot we want to talk with you about i think we can either start with um updates at rainbow because you guys have some fun things that you launched this week or um you haven't seen my telegram message where we're gonna play a fun game with you which is maybe even better because it'll be [13:33] what Rainbow did this week? What you guys are up to? Oh, yeah. [13:35] yeah i mean we just pushed a very big release we just launched the rainbow token launcher uh which allowed me to make uh fun tokens for any purpose really um on a number of chains right so uh you know rainbow supports a lot of networks um there's cool things happening on lots of different networks uh but it's frankly been quite difficult to like

[13:58] you know, get tokens launched on random networks like, you know, Barachain or Inc, etc. And Rainbow Stoken Launcher, you know, lets you deploy on all of these networks and also has some really cool features built in that [14:13] uh allow you to like airdrop the tokens that you make to your friends um so [14:18] Yeah, like so with with Rainbow Token Launcher, we're really trying to [14:22] make the act of creating a token, launching a token, less lonely, right? And trying to basically leverage Rainbow's existing distribution as well as [14:34] cool these cool features like the airdrop tool to kind of get your token the token that you make into more people's hands [14:40] um you know [14:42] and make it a less lonely experience. So it's been fun to see what people have been making, excited to see, [14:49] you know, the stuff that people launch. It's been cool. It's kind of like Rainbow's First [14:54] thing with almost like user generated content. So it's been fun to [14:58] to watch it play out. [15:00] cool so you can do it in app you can do it in the rainbow i'm in the app can you tell me how to get to it yeah so click on uh the magnifying glass at the bottom to get to the discover page [15:10] Okay. Oh, and if you don't see the big fat launch a token button, it might mean you need to update your app. Oh, I see it. Launch your coin. Oh, there it is. Great. There you go. I have 700 airdrops available to claim. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. This is the thing I love about rainbow. I, I, so I'm a rainbow user. I use it every day. And, um, the, the,

[15:34] When you guys did the positions and claimables, [15:38] ad yeah um i found a position from [15:41] Thank you. [15:42] years ago that I had positioned and forgotten about. And it's the best. However, when you find money, yeah, money. I have it here and I'm looking at it and I'm like, I had totally forgotten about it. But it's the position is on. [16:00] like a broken dead chain that I can know. Oh yeah. I don't want to call anyone out. And, um, has been working with me on helping to unlock this position as an act of charity. I think he's been really nice. Um, but it also is kind of torture because I'm like, Oh man, I'm up. Like my wallet is like looking healthy. And then it's like, I look at that position. I'm like, Oh, it's just because that's [16:23] It's really interesting. Yeah, I feel like that it's honestly surprising [16:28] that this is not a much more common occurrence, right? Yeah. I think that like, it's honestly kind of surprising that this happens [16:38] like as infrequently as it does um but yeah i mean there's certainly like even daps you know where like i think my little brother still has money deposited in like [16:47] uh, [16:48] rari fuse pools uh which sadly got wrecked and sort of like yeah like this is like some defi thing from like four years ago you know and the website doesn't work if you want to withdraw that money he's got to use right he's got to use ether scam okay so what have you seen so launch your coin what have you seen people launch and yeah how's it been going people just launching fun silly things uh let me think i guess what have been some of my favorites i guess you know the

[17:17] you know, uh, [17:19] taken off the most, I guess, is a [17:21] like knife pup [17:22] not exactly sure the inspiration for nice pop okay wait night i have some conspiracy [17:28] pup like p like puppy like it's a dog okay oh yeah oh okay okay okay okay yeah [17:34] Yeah. And I don't know sort of the exact lore there, if I'm being honest. Totally. But I like to imagine that it's because... [17:43] i got my dog uh neutered this week and i feel i was tweeting about it so i wonder [17:49] the cone but i'm not sure yeah he's over yeah he's he's being a cone baby over there [17:56] okay that would be a pretty deep cut uh from the rainbow community but i love to see it okay and so basically you can launch a token and then you air drop it to your friends so you guys are wanting to make it sort of like a more social experience around launching [18:09] - Tokens. - Yeah. I mean, the way we see it, right, is just like, you know, making tokens are sort of, have fundamentally been crypto, right, from the beginning. Sort of creating a token we think is [18:21] something that's just like a sheer sort of utility. [18:25] Um, [18:25] And we wanted to build it directly into the app to make it just as easy as possible. I mean, the other angle of it, right, is historically, Rain, but we've always strived to [18:35] solve what we call the like what next problem right where it's like even if you succeed in selling somebody on [18:42] And like, you know, crypto, like decentralized assets, like, oh, wow, like centralized finance, trustless. So cool. You can sell them on all that stuff.

[18:51] But then once they get the wallet, right? Like what next? What do they do? What is the actual action to take? Right. And making a token is certainly [18:59] a very cool [19:00] sort of entry experience, we think. [19:03] it's also can be a really, really powerful, like educational moment, right? I think historically, I don't know how true this is, like today, just given the sort of rise of pump fun and other meme coins. But I think historically, there had been this vibe out there, if you like, ask a normie on the street, [19:22] you know, like who invented [19:23] If you ask them who invented Shiba Inu coin, [19:26] right like they're gonna say oh like that's a cryptocurrency you have to be like uh you know [19:30] you have to be a professor or like you have to be really smart to make a cryptocurrency. Right. And I think that, um, [19:37] sort of expo like making you know the launching a token so simple uh can is it can be a really powerful educational moment because i think it sort of contextualizes [19:47] uh everything else that you see right and sort of makes you a more discerning market participant realizing that hey any token that i'm about to [19:55] by someone could have just made that right maybe they didn't have to be a genius maybe you know uh so i think that sort of whether it's uh you know you're trying to [20:05] you know, [20:06] make the next major meme coin or whether it's you just want to make, you know, Mike coin just to kind of, you know, send it to your friends as part of your onboarding experience. We kind of wanted to build a tool that worked for all of those things. [20:19] Fun. [20:20] Really fun. Okay, great. Now if we can do it,

[20:25] Anybody can do it. Yeah, more tokens. Tokens are cool. Tokens are fun. [20:32] Tokens are very fun. Okay, I want to ask you a few questions. So this is actually this idea. So [20:41] Thank you. [20:42] if it's oh sure i can no basically like the concept is that like give us your most [20:49] smooth brain take [20:50] on a variety of topics. And it's just like, first thing that comes to mind. Quick fire. We're going to do a quick fire. Quick fire. One of the things I get most dumbest, most smooth brain take on... [21:01] the same one to ask you okay the first one stable coins [21:05] Thank you. [21:05] Stephen Quinn's call. [21:07] We like stable coins. Cool. Cool. That is a great dream. That's a super. I love it. The dollars are good. Yeah. You know, like, yeah, stable coins. Okay. Nice. The dollars are good. Yeah. Okay. Next one. Give me some, give me some of them. You know? Yeah, totally. We're accepting them. Liberty Financial. Great name. [21:37] to match with the vibes. [21:38] you know like uh you mean world liberty financial i do or liberty okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but now i knew what you meant yeah [21:47] okay yeah i guess uh the brand is strong the brand is [21:51] brand is strong um okay i'm i don't know if you're familiar with this concept so we'll find out but bushwick basic

[21:59] Okay, well, so I'm not, well, so first, am I giving long enough smooth answers? It's perfect. Perfect. Okay. Okay. No, no. I don't know what Bushwick Basic is. I can guess. [22:09] Kate, do you want to give a definition? Take it away. Bushwick basic is kind of like the stereotypical style of the neighborhood. [22:18] Bushwick is kind of like the brat. [22:21] Gen Z style. [22:22] if you will. [22:23] to dumb it down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [22:26] Uh, what's my smooth brain take on it? I mean, um, self-expression is great, you know? There you go. Quote him. Uh, I don't know. Like, uh, like, uh, I guess smooth brain take, I like going to, you know, [22:44] the West Village in the Upper West Side and people dressed fancy and I'm like, "What are we doing over here?" You know what I mean? When I'm hanging out in Brooklyn too much. So I feel like [22:54] Maybe that's a take. It's like maybe... [22:56] Maybe dressing up fancy is cool. [23:00] okay i don't do it look at me like but yeah um okay um solana ad [23:10] I didn't even watch it. [23:12] Okay, that's the most with brain take that you could have actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did not participate. [23:20] - Unsubscribed from that. Okay, and the last one, [23:24] Studio Ghibli. [23:28] It okay.

[23:30] It's I love it. [23:31] I guess, you know, part of my lore is [23:36] I've kind of publicly made a, you know, I'm not a very big anime guy. [23:41] uh and i know that that triggers the shit out of people that's i know with that actually [23:46] I know. I thought he was gonna say my lore is I like anime. No, I'm like one of the, I just like, it doesn't, it doesn't, my brain doesn't get it. It doesn't do it for you. It does not do it. However, [24:00] I think I like studio... [24:02] Ghibli. [24:04] which makes me feel like it's then not anime. You know what I mean? Like, I know that that's like people, some people say that, right? That is a conversation in the anime world. It's very different. [24:15] Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I feel like the fact that I like it makes it probably not anime. It's like, but I really, yeah, but everything, [24:24] Everything, you know, all of the stuff people are posting on Twitter with the AI shits, [24:31] It's good. [24:33] I like it. It's good. We got a really positive. Mike, you really like a lot. [24:40] there's not there's no yeah i mean i'm pretty i'm i'm pretty agree you know yeah like i uh i like to see the best in things yeah i'm not i'm not super negative um any other smooth brain takes on anything really just open floor now [24:53] uh open-ended question here i'd actually like to hear something that you don't like not to be negative but just no i don't know i mean i'm like i like uh morning routines i think we should oh morning routines is like wake up like join the call as i am making coffee over there and apologizing like hey i'm off screen making coffee um i don't know something on my mind i

[25:23] that our American leaders are talking about. Like, I don't want us to annex Canada or Greenland. That's like not chill. Even though I'm like quite an America maxi, [25:35] Uh, [25:36] You went for a hockey. Not chill. [25:37] Yeah. You think they should stay? [25:42] I just don't think we should annex them. [25:44] I think that [25:47] I think that we should try to get Greenland, but we should be paying each of them like lots of, every person in Greenland should be getting like a million dollars, you know what I mean? Cool, cool take. Like, yeah, like they should be hooked up basically. [25:59] uh, [26:00] And anyway, I feel like that's missing from the discourse right now. It's like, let's hook up those Greenlanders. You know what I mean? Nice. Mike, where are you from? [26:09] Massachusetts. How about you? Well, if you had said Canada. Where are you from? [26:14] Upstate New York. I have a very Canadian last name. You do seem Canadian. If you had said Canada, I would have been like, that checks out. [26:21] I know Canada is a country, not like a place you can be from, like as a city or whatever. Yeah. [26:27] So Massachusetts? [26:28] yeah you do have a northern vibe cold winter cold winters i appreciate that that's a compliment i can tell no i definitely yeah uh apparently my last name like i don't know it's like the wealthiest like illuminati family in quebec [26:45] has my last name and I uh sick I don't we're not related but uh [26:51] - Maybe you are. - Maybe you are. [26:52] you

[26:54] We have a 23andMe story coming up that we can maybe try to talk to. Is it Demaret? Like, do you pronounce it the French word? Yeah. [27:01] Do you pronounce it the French way? [27:03] I mean, actually, Demare. Yeah. Okay. Demare. Yeah. [27:08] Does it annoy when people are like Demeris? [27:11] They'll say Demeris the most. It doesn't annoy me. If someone yells out like [27:18] Mike Damaris, like, you know, [27:21] you're up i i go that's me you know i don't like correct them yeah i go that's me um okay mike really fun to have you on um you're invited back anytime we're maybe yeah i like the vibe yeah thanks for having me guys [27:45] yeah welcome back anytime natasha's cut out but um so fun love the token launcher congratulations uh yeah and we'll have you back soon [27:56] Happy back. Please invite me. Okay. Am I back? [28:02] You're back. You're back. Oh, what a fun guy. Really fun time. [28:08] - Uh... [28:09] Okay. [28:10] Let's get back to it. Okay. We're going to talk about... [28:15] Nikita Beer and Solana. [28:19] Nikita Beer is... [28:21] Uh, [28:23] Thank you. [28:23] How do we describe him? Like definitely a Twitter guy.

[28:28] Twitter guy, Twitter thread guy, but smart. [28:31] uh twitter threads on he's like consumer app [28:35] how to build viral mechanisms into your app. [28:40] how to create better consumer apps basically, but they're really smart and they're really informed. And he basically had, he has a ton of credibility. He, he built, [28:48] two apps, [28:50] that were like went to the top of the app store and then were acquired one was acquired by facebook one was acquired by discord um they were both like teen apps uh okay and so he's a serious person [29:03] i'm not i i like always obviously see him all around the timeline and people having [29:07] discourse and thoughts on him and i've never really gotten into he's never been my bag but i could never figure out if it was that he is a serious person or not like i never took the time to learn he's a serious person he has a ton of credibility i think he works at light speed ventures or something now um and but also just made a ton of money like with both these acquisitions and and his [29:30] Yeah, his takes are like how to... It's like consumer app stuff, which may or may not be... [29:36] Thank you. [29:37] interesting for you as you're scrolling like if yeah if i see a one dash two dash i'm immediately [29:45] i hate a thread unless it's culture [29:47] Okay, wait, can I have a really, like, just a really small aside? You know how Instagram now has this feature where you can look at what people have liked? [29:56] I don't know. Okay. You can go to reels. If you're in reels, it'll be like, like in the OG days.

[30:02] No, no, no. It's a new feature. Yeah, but in the OG days, you could do that. I do remember that. But now it's more curated. You can't... And you go to Reels, and then it'll be like... Basically look and see what other... Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that feature. It's really funny. And so I went... [30:22] I was there. I was in there last night and I saw, um, uh, [30:27] A reel that you liked, Kate. That was so, so funny. It was like a kid who's in college. I'm cheer rating for my friends by liking things. Literally. It was like a kid who's in college and it was like... [30:40] He had gotten like a three... [30:43] not three paragraph three sentence message from the school that he was attending and he copy and pasted that message into chat gpt and it was like please summarize this for me which is was like so this is so ridiculous and the summary was uh due to the fact that you have a 1.7 gpa you've been expelled from the university and i've thought so much about like [31:07] that [31:08] real because I'm like, what is to, what is an appropriate length of something to have it summarized for you? Because what was so funny about it is that it was like, so, so, so short. Anyway, I feel that way about long tweets where I'm like, [31:21] Just okay. To tie back, totally. This is a long tweet and my eyes have glazed over. I will summarize it in a second. But that exact thing is the type of thing that Nikita Beer would tweet about where it's like, okay, you build in some sort of sharing or like friend connection thing where like Natasha is seeing Kate's likes and then she's consuming that. Like that's exactly the type of feedback loop that he would write a thread about. Okay. I just want to experience it. I don't want to read about it.

[31:50] I'm done reading, actually. That's my hot take. I'm done reading. I think I'm going to post reading. I think I'm going to tap in on his stuff now. Great. I feel you've sold me. And then you can summarize it for me. Exactly. I'll TLDR it on the Boys Club website. Perfect. Okay. So the news here is that Nikita Beer [32:09] has been, [32:11] I don't know, hired as a... Tapped. Tapped. As a advisor for Solana. [32:18] And he basically has had some like really funny, viral, spicy tweets about crypto in the past. But basically what he's saying here in this big, long tweet is that he's changed his mind about crypto for a few reasons. One, regulation is now friendlier. Two, app store is now friendlier for crypto stuff. And three, the distribution of the wallets, like basically like all these people having wallets installed on their phone is actually like meaningful distribution now that can make things because of meme coins that can make. [32:47] there's like a launch pad there basically he's speaking about phantom wallets specifically because he's now a solana guy but i think you can sort of extend that thesis out to the distribution of wallets more generally um and he's like now like there's liquidity and adoption now in this category that makes it really interesting for consumer builders to actually build something that could like scale and so i think i think [33:12] Overall, it's really... [33:14] a positive, very positive signal for the crypto industry. I think a great move by Solana, who are coming off the back of a not great

[33:24] couple weeks. [33:26] It's none of my business, but I do want to know what his token allocation is. None of my business at all, but very curious about the shape of that deal. But yeah, generally just a huge, huge win for Solana. And I think really big for the industry. And I think for consumer app builders, like generally having someone like him thinking about, yeah. [33:47] taking like his... [33:49] the lessons that he's learned over many years, building really successful things and like porting that over to crypto is exciting. I think. Yeah, totally. I was, I was very, [33:59] not knowing much about him. [34:01] I was like, anytime somebody who hasn't been shilling the crypto bags coming in and [34:06] making a move into crypto especially right now feels exciting oh no Miranda said I got rugged on a fake Nikita coin brutal I seem to remember when it happened when was that was that like a couple months ago that's I do remember that it was going around it was when I was using friends a lot that app uh-huh and I remember there was quite a bit of chatter is it's real it's not it's real it's not um so really funny that she got rugged on that I mean sorry pour one out yeah yeah [34:36] funny not funny um okay mike uh okay should we jump to 23andme let's talk about 23andme so the news here is that uh 23andme has filed for bankruptcy and [34:48] And what that has brought to the surface for many people is that essentially 15 million people's data is just going to be sold to the highest bidder. So there was a lot of chatter on the timeline about this, rightfully so. And we can go to the next slide here.

[35:08] Oh, okay. Well, a few things. One, the site crashed on Monday because so many users were going to the site because they were trying to delete their data, Dina included. And one of the interesting things about what is happening is the CEO who stepped down, her name is Ann Mollinger. [35:27] Thank you. [35:28] - See. [35:28] And was... [35:32] Wojiki. And for those of you just listening, the slide is how to say Wojiki. Wojiki. Maybe I should play it again, but carry on. So she is the previous CEO. And interestingly enough, she is one of the [35:54] people who is bidding for... [35:57] this data and for the company. So it's interesting. I mean, a lot has happened with 23andMe over the last few months. In November, they slashed about 40% of its workforce as part of a restructuring plan and a step that came roughly two months after the entire board had resigned. So they've had a rough [36:16] uh six months let's call it and now uh are dead in the water essentially so we'll see what happens to all these people's data i'm pretty sure i did a 23 of me at some point as well so i'm pretty sure like you don't remember not really i think that like it was like a christmas gift for my parents and [36:34] I was just like, [36:36] swab [36:37] it okay sent it my parents were the type that were like don't don't do these don't do these we know our history like don't know your data they turn out to be on the right side of history on that one um yeah the site was totally messed up on monday when i was trying to get in there and delete i've had some uh i've i have had an interesting thing happen with my 23andme um account where what do

[37:02] someone contact me [37:04] Oh, I remember this. This was crazy. Yeah. It like stays and then people – [37:12] if you have an account, people who want to find their siblings and cousins, it's not even that, like you get an automatic notification where it's like, it says like you have 23 new family members that joined 23andMe in the past month. And then like you get a notification about it. And most of those people are like, [37:28] Thank you. [37:28] It's you. [37:30] It's like, [37:31] very distant times removed like it's not at all close okay but um and i never pay attention to them i never pay attention to my 23andMe account but i did get [37:41] like a push notification to my email that someone had messaged me directly, a direct message and was basically like, we're, I think we're, [37:49] cousins and basically how it unfolded she was like i'm trying to get in touch with [37:55] the person who is my uncle or my cousin and or my uncle and like can you help put me in touch with them I think I'm his daughter I think I'm her his daughter and [38:08] Wow, wow. I was like in the middle. And then I like told my mom and she like got super weird. Everyone was being so weird. And I was like kind of awkward situation where like this young woman was reaching out to me and I felt like a responsibility to I don't know my best to try and help her but also like. [38:27] Everyone got weird. And all of a sudden you're like, that's actually like none of my business. None of this is any of my business. I don't, I don't want to be here at all. And so it ended up.

[38:40] I don't, I, it's actually not my business to share how to end up and ended up, but it, I will say that I have been in a very awkward situation because of 23andMe and because of the data that you sold it there, that I sold them. Or I guess actually that you paid to pay for them to have. I paid for that opportunity. And, but I did delete all, I did delete everything on Monday. You were able to? Okay. I was able to eventually. We'll see. [39:10] I'll be somehow excluded. I still do want to be included in that. I was able to delete my data and I will say Maddie had a great tweet. Maddie from Polygon had a great tweet that was like, I think we can do this a better way where like, [39:26] with oh I saw this yeah Joe and ZK like the ZK stuff gets super complicated and I don't fully understand it but I do know that there's a way to like do the test and have the experience that you have as a consumer which is like finding out the information that you may want to find out about yourself and your ancestry but have it so that the company can't access the data like there's a way to kind of [39:46] have that now with zk and crypto and um so i thought that was a clever build on it and um [39:53] it would have avoided a situation that we're in now where it's like someone has this [39:58] data that they are going to sell to the highest bidder and crazy times crazy okay we got some quick hits here the first one uh [40:09] classic situation that happens sometimes with a group chat, the group chat, uh,

[40:16] the group chat story that hit in the atlantic i don't know was it monday [40:21] I think it was crazy. Everyone has seen it by this point. So I don't think we need to necessarily brief people. But if you haven't yet, you're still watching a live stream on Twitter. I honestly don't know how that could happen. But basically, there was a group chat. [40:40] on signal that was jd vance and p hegseth and a bunch of very very very very senior white house officials and they were talking about an upcoming war uh strike and they accidentally i don't know who who knows if it was accidental or not but they added a atlantic uh senior atlantic reporter and he like [41:05] was like listened and watched for a day and a half and then like quietly left the chat and then wrote a whole article about what happened and what they were talking about uh and that was [41:19] I mean, [41:21] it went like hyper viral. And I think that there's a lot of different ways that you can look at that story. I think the [41:29] main one is that [41:31] just the incompetence and sort of clown clown like behavior to add the incompetence really to add a reporter to the group chat. I think it reported to the group chat talking about a, talking about we all did it in crypto. The game accidentally added someone removed someone. I think that what it brings up for me, totally separate from the seriousness of the topic is just like,

[41:57] trauma around texting the wrong thing to the wrong person around texting the wrong thing to the group chat as opposed to an individual like just deep I am so deeply paranoid everybody knows this I am that is close with me I am so paranoid about my phone and Miranda is also very paranoid around her phone and like when I go into therapy that thing is on airplane mode I'm just like [42:27] I'm like, I could be live streaming right now. I could be live streaming my therapy session. Like I literally think about that, which is crazy. And then very recently actually Miranda accidentally [42:40] sent me [42:41] like a voice to you and me sent like a, like a, [42:45] I don't know, 40 second voice memo to us that was accidental. And she was like, literally my worst fear, like my worst fear. And then additionally, I did not realize this. And I actually haven't talked about it with you guys. And I actually have intentionally not [43:01] thought about it or gone back to it because i am i i [43:06] I have been avoidant around it where during Crypt of the Game, I sent a voice note to the group chat about like it was during some I can't even really remember, but it was during some challenge. And I think it was the pizza challenge. And I was talking about like, hey, this is what happened last year. This is how I think we should be thinking about this year. And that should have. [43:26] It was maybe a minute. And then like later I saw a thread about my team and there was a screenshot and it was a 20 minute voice memo. And I'm like, what? Wait, wait.

[43:39] What happened and what was I doing? [43:43] And what is on that 20-minute voice memo? And I am not going to go back and listen to it. I'm not. I can't. I don't want to know. Did you see this? Because I told you. I did see. I saw a thread that had the 20-minute voice memo from Natasha. And someone, I would love to listen to that. I would just put it on the background. I think Ted texted me and was like, what was the 20-minute voice memo about? And I literally was like... [44:04] uh like i can't i can't think about it i can't i don't want to know i don't want to know if you were on my group and you know don't tell me i don't i don't even want to know anyway he says drop the remix i'm gonna have chat gbt summarize it for me there you go there you go um anyway we've all done it uh not to this level of stakes um i love these two tweets here having read through the full houthi pc small chat group logs which is the um [44:33] the chat's name. I've come to the sad realization that I'm the JD Vance in my group chats, overly emotional, slightly unprofessional, confused by what everyone is saying because I won't scroll up and continually derailing plans with late objections. This is literally so me. And it's a screenshot of something of the article, which says six minutes later, the vice president, apparently confused by Walt's message, wrote what? It was a question mark reaction. Totally. I think like, [44:59] There's something in like group chat etiquette in this that is so funny. And also like just [45:07] I think part of why it's [45:08] I mean, there's a lot of reasons why people were so interested in it, but also like the unmediated view at some of these people is really interesting to look at, like when they're not in front of a camera. Unfiltered. Unfiltered, yeah. But...

[45:23] Okay. [45:24] Who's the JD Vance of our group chat? Unfortunately, I think we're all JD Vance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just what, what, what? [45:34] Okay, next up here. Oh, this is the group chat. Oh, the group chat on the sphere. Incredible tweet. Really funny. Really funny. [45:42] Okay, just as a palate cleanser, this is a really stupid story, but... [45:46] I love... [45:48] these rich women. I love them. Like I want to, I, I love them not in the way that I actually like adore them and look up to them, but I love their lives. And I'm interested in their like, [46:00] Santa Barbara, like... [46:03] in its own way dystopian world that they live in so this is you are you guys familiar with what's happening here totally not at all i want to hear your side of it because i know you're invested i yeah and like it's fed to me without my consent and then i get invested in it and that's upsetting but it's where we're at okay so the story here is about gwyneth paltrow and megan markle [46:25] And you guys have... [46:27] I think I wrote a newsletter about Meghan Markle. No, I didn't actually. I ended up scrapping it because it was just... I think I send you every Meghan Markle tweet ever. Yeah. As a bit. As a bit. I don't... [46:39] I don't want to think about this woman. Like, that's how I feel about Meghan Markle. Obsessed with Gwyneth Paltrow. Like, [46:44] obsessed with her. I think she is incredible. I don't actually follow anything that she does. I'm not like a goop type girl, but I just think she's so, I think she's very cool and very successful.

[46:55] And I think we should look up to her as an entrepreneur. [47:00] Anyway, so the TLDR is that Meghan Markle, [47:03] launches this show, this Netflix show called like with love, Megan, it gets absolutely destroyed. People really don't like it. People really don't like her. She's deeply triggering to people. Um, [47:15] I find her like there's an inauthenticity inauthenticity to her that I don't relate to her because of it. Okay. Okay. [47:24] There. That happens. She's so beautiful. [47:26] stunning. Must be said. I don't know. She is so beautiful. Unbelievably gorgeous and has only gotten like [47:34] I don't know who or what she's doing, but like, I need to, I will, I will both, I will go to there, like whatever it is. Okay. She's taking the substance, like for sure. [47:45] Okay, so she... [47:47] um, her show launches and then, um, [47:50] Thank you. [47:51] there's hate around it. And one of the things that comes out is that it's supposed to be the show about like, she's in her kitchen, she's cooking for her friends and family. Like it's supposed to be very like Ina Gardner type S show or like Martha Stewart. And then it is revealed that she's filming not in her own home. And that's like at a studio and that gets a lot of hate. And [48:16] Kate, there's like a little bit of background noise. And I think in lunch happening, no problem. And then Meghan Markle. [48:24] So this all happens. Then yesterday, Gwyneth Paltrow puts out this video where she is making breakfast in her home.

[48:32] in her kitchen. And it's so... [48:36] like heartwarming and like, I just want to be there. I want to be where she is. She's making little biscuits. She's like so natural on camera. I mean, she's like a great actress, but like you seem like she's there with her. You feel like you're there with her. She then... [48:53] It goes on the internet and people are like, this is a dig at Meghan Markle because it's her in her own kitchen. The theme song that she's playing is the theme song of her show. And it goes viral. And people are like, oh, cool move. Cool Gwyneth Paltrow move to be like. [49:09] low-key whatever then today [49:13] Gwyneth Paltrow on her stories posts, posts this picture of her being someone basically asking like, what's the deal? What's the beef between you and Megan Markle? And she's it's face to camera. And she's like, I don't really know what I don't know what they're talking about. I don't know what they're talking about at all. And then she turns the camera and she's like, do you? And it's Megan Markle in her kitchen eating some pancakes. And I was like, okay, this has all been deeply orchestrated. I don't like it. I don't like it. I knew you would hate it. I knew you'd hate it. Okay, Kate, what do you think? [49:43] - Yeah, everything's post-truth and I think it's staged and I think Megan's team reached out and was like, can we please squash this publicly, even if it needs to be staged? - I think that what I would like to think [49:59] is that Gwyneth got like a fat check.

[50:02] That they were like, hey, can you post this video? And then can we do a follow-up video where we're in your kitchen? And she's like, great. I've gotten quotes from Goop before for previous jobs. Not cheap. And I would like to think that she's like cashing a check for it. [50:15] Great. I love that. I think all of it. I love that. I think she would have she would have needed to have disclosed that, I think, according to the FCC. [50:26] To have been stated at some point. But yeah, I am going to buy into that version of the story. That's where my head is at. Anyway, these two women and their lives in Santa Barbara. Really interesting stuff to me. I hate to say it, but it is. It has me in the grip of their hand. [50:45] at Cello, they migrated to a hard forked to an L2 back on Ethereum now. So they were in all layer one for many years and now are an L2. And it was a lot of very hard work from what I understand. And that happened last night, very late last night. And so you can learn about that [51:08] uh [51:09] on their Twitter and it's really interesting to hear about how they marketed it but happy for all our friends over there and I think really just generally very bullish for [51:18] Ethereum generally. [51:21] And yeah, they're like all in on Ethac and it's exciting to see. [51:26] So we love that team. We love them over there. Okay. Last story here. Last story. Well, I got a lot of really dumb stories today, but basically what happened here, Sam Altman is just like us. And, um, basically there was a tweet that said new chat GPT image. Jen can draw sexy men, but not sexy women. And it's a screen capture of a back and forth with the chat bot. And then a

[51:56] says that's bug should not be allowed will fix fast follow hot guy though exclamation point and i would like to think that this is actually a feature and not a bug and that's it that's oh man that's the story i will say think what you want about him but he can every once in a while come out with a total banger of a tweet totally and uh i think has a pretty good [52:21] Yeah, that's our guy. There he is. Wait, did we leave the pyramids in there? [52:26] Oh, great. Thanks. Kate. Oh, great. Great. Great. Great. This is all you. This is all you. I just this was my timeline. Like it blew up. The TLDR is. Um. [52:40] very TLDR, not smart version, but scientists just scanned underneath a pyramid in Egypt, and they found these like columns. And so people, of course, did not dig deep into the research, they just started making memes about what is actually underneath the pyramids. And here we have a meme, y'all not ready for this conversation. And it's Saratoga waters as the columns underneath [53:10] should I spend some time understanding what's happening with the pyramid story or is it just like a hoax and I should just not waste my time like is it worth is it worthy of some of 20 minutes of reading into it or not [53:23] I don't think so, because how is it really going to change your life? I mean, unless you're, like, deeply invested on finding out if aliens created the pyramids or not, like,

[53:33] I'm good. We're veering into Rogan, Roganverse. It's Rogan. Yeah. So don't worry. I will listen to the four hour podcast and I will send it to you. Thank you. Thank you. You're very welcome. [53:47] Okay, thanks all for showing up, hanging out. We had a great time with you. This is Dumb Bitch Hour. We're here every Wednesday at noon. [53:58] talking about things [53:59] It's a range. [54:01] It's a range of things. And we're so happy that you hang out with us. So maybe we'll see you next week. [54:07] Okay, that was DBH. Join us live on Twitter every Wednesday at noon. Or here, I guess.