Ep 190: Dumb B!tch Hour. Trump's Crypto Strategic Reserve, JD Vance's Role, TikTok Buyers, New Digg, The Paddock Slut, & More

[00:01] Dumb Shower is a weekly live chat on all things tech, crypto and pop culture news brought to you by Boys Club, a New York based media and creative studio. DVH is hosted by myself, Dina Burke and Natasha Hoskins. Hi. Co-founders, marketers and entrepreneurs that have built our careers in new tech and startups. We're also proudly the dumbest bitches in the room and we love to learn in public. DVH is recorded live and best consumed as a video podcast. Here's this week's show. [00:31] you [00:35] - Before we get into it, absolutely huge shout out to Polygon, they are partners of this podcast. They are building scaling solutions for Web3. They are the best partners, they have so many cool projects that are using their proof of stake. Uniswap, Ave, Stripe, Reddit, Polymarket, just to name a few. [00:56] We love you, Polygon. So this is Dumb Bitch Hour. This is a show where Dina and I are the dumb bitches, and we talk about what's happening on the internet, [01:06] in crypto, on the news, tech news. We're here. [01:11] We're having fun. It's not that serious. And, um, [01:17] the other thing is that there is a chat and what people don't understand i just realized this is that when you're when we're here you can click [01:25] You have to click into the live and then there's a chat on the side. [01:28] And like, it's quite fun. So jump on in. Like, don't. And we also, I also can see the chat too. So if you guys say stuff, then we can see it from our screen as well. We can see it.

[01:38] So we're gonna jump in again [01:42] Thank you. [01:42] This is Dumpage Hour. Good news for pod listeners. We are taking this and putting it back on Spotify starting this week. So if you're a podcast listener and you're tuning in later... [01:56] Nice to talk with you and we've missed you. Yeah, we got a, I would say that was the top request. [02:03] from seeing folks this week was like, what's going on with RSS Bade? And I'm like, well, we're doing lives now and people are like, well, [02:11] that I can't name that or like yeah lots of lots of chat I got one person who was like I'm not on Twitter and I was like [02:18] Ma'am. Good for you. What are you doing here? This is a, this is a Wendy's. I was like, I was like at ETH Denver. Um, but we also are doing a giveaway today. I, I don't have a knife to open this box, but the, the critter, uh, air monitoring device is in here. [02:36] I have two. One is earmarked for Riley to send to her. But the other one we have to give away. And Kate, maybe you can pull up like a photo of it. It can come later. I know it might take some time to get there. But like it's a really cute little picture. [02:51] critter [02:52] air monitor. [02:54] Air monitor and like Tamagotchi game. [02:57] And they were at the... [03:00] decentralized acceleration day in devcon and just a really cool hacker team and they've got this thing that they're 3d printing like in their house and but it works really well and it's a obviously has air monitoring stuff and we've talked about that on previous uh episodes um but also there's like this gamified element as well so very clever uh cool team cool project and we're

[03:30] That is pinned at the top of the chat. So again, got to get in the chat and put your information. And then Kate is going to choose a random winner at the end of Dunbitch Hour. So that's what's up. Oh, someone said I can listen to it during my walks now. Love the lives, though. But yes, I think that was someone came up to me at our party. And Ethan Verne was like, hey, I actually. Oh, there's a critter. Look how cute she is. She's adorable. So cute. I love it. Oh, and this one, actually, this this one that they sent me has a burner wallet in it. [04:00] So, [04:01] Oh, great. [04:03] in it and oh there you go okay here which we love the burner wallet so cute uh so that's that um but yeah so someone came to me and she was like i uh [04:14] have a like a routine where i wash i i clean my house and i listen i listen to you guys and she's like that's no longer and i think that's harder with a live playback because you're like also anyway whatever it's going back on the feed um and there is yeah uh okay [04:33] Should we get started? Yeah, I'm going to share my screen here. We're going with a deck approach. [04:41] so that it's less scary. I will say I did put a few there's like a video we will need to watch. So, but that's all good. Um, [04:50] Okay. [04:51] Can you see it? This speaks for itself. You can see. Okay, yeah. So just wanted to start here. Overheard in SF, CryptoGirls are red flags, bro. Ivy sent this to me. And I feel...

[05:05] I love it. I think it's true. I am the red black. I love all of the girlies that are in and around boys club and they're all perfect and beautiful. [05:18] 10 out of 10. [05:19] But you got to be crazy to work in this industry or to be absolutely local. You have to be you have to be crazy. And like I think of some of the group chats that I'm in and I'm like, [05:28] These people are... [05:30] and myself included, [05:31] Red flags. Totally. [05:33] Totally. [05:34] one there, one there, one there. And I love every single one of them. And... [05:39] I got what's so funny as I woke up to this text, this was sent around, um, [05:45] This... [05:45] Well, we're moving. All right. Oh, my God, I'm dizzy. This was sent around the group chat and our Slack, our Slack. And then I woke up to a text from my friend Reggie, this this exact tweet. So others also. [06:00] identify are able to identify that yes yes okay and then this is really what it brings brings up for me i hated jesus doing stories for myself [06:10] I have been I have been like reconciling something with myself though um [06:16] which is like, [06:17] You have been every once in a while pulling up the screenshot of the book, The Power of Being Disliked. What is it called? Oh, I'm obsessed. That has been burning a hole in my pocket. [06:29] The power to be disliked? No, it's not power. It's not power. It's something like... The freedom to be disliked? [06:35] The strength, the... Hold on, I tweeted it and got a pretty good engagement on my tuna salad. The courage. The courage to be disliked. The courage to be disliked. The courage to be disliked. And I've been thinking a lot about the courage to be disliked. And I...

[06:50] I want in similar to what would you do if you have 10x more agency? I want the courage to be disliked. [06:56] This is what I'm bringing into spring 2025. [07:00] Let's hear it. Riley, the Courage Blues is like, just that. It's number one. For me, I'm going to do what I'm going to do and people will like it or they will dislike it. [07:11] And and you have no you that's not none of your business. It's none of my business. It's none of my business. And you know what? The issue is that Twitter makes it your business. Yeah. You see it and you see people shit talking or tweeting or whatever. You're like, oh, wait, is this my business to care about what people think about me? [07:27] But actually, it's not. That's a false flag. It's a bad indicator. It's bad data. It's bad data. Bad data. It's bad data. [07:36] Great. [07:37] We're just like Jesus. We're just like Jesus. Okay. Okay. You're going to take this one, right? It's just a really quick piece here on this rejection letter. Um, so this went viral, I don't know, yesterday. [07:48] I guess... [07:49] Ben Stiller offered Barack Obama the role of the Lumen building in Severance. And there's something about his rejection letter that I found really comforting. He says, [07:59] I get an email about this is Ben Stiller saying, [08:02] uh, [08:03] reading this out. I get an email back from President Barack Obama. Hey, Ben, big fan of the show. Love season one. Can't wait for season two. Don't think I have the time I scheduled to make this happen. And what I love about it is that like at any level, you're getting rejection letters like this. And it's you can't take it personally. [08:18] It's fine. Severance is a he loves Severance.

[08:21] He's not going to do it. [08:22] Knows a full sentence and that's okay. Every level you're getting rejection. And like, I don't know, there's something about it that was great. [08:31] I love don't think I have the time in my schedule to make this happen. I love that. I honestly, I'm going to start just a copy and pasting it. If you get that from, if you get a message like that from Natasha, you know where it came from, you know, it's origin story. Oh my gosh. Great stuff. Great. Obama. We just always, always never does wrong. Okay. Eat Denver. Okay. Real quick. We're going to keep it punchy here. [08:55] Punchy, punchy, punchy, punchy. [08:59] What is there to say? I would say that sentiment, um, [09:05] First of all, [09:07] I saw this [09:08] eath denver as sort of my senior year this is my fourth eath denver i've done it i've done it a few times i i am familiar with the the [09:18] players and vibe. I would say that conference center felt light. [09:23] Yeah, that could be due to the market. That could be due to too many, arguably, side events all over. [09:31] everywhere. I think I saw somewhere 300 to 500, 300 something too many side events. And Uber drivers confirmed this. Kate had a Uber driver data point around them being like, wow, there's a ton of what you guys call side events. And I was like, wow, this guy's locked in. He knows what's up. Totally. And so that was part of it. I don't know. What are your thoughts? [09:51] Um, yeah, I think a send, uh, an attendance, um, drop for sure. Uh, lots of side events. I mean, I went to some good ones. So like they're the level of production is increasing on these things. And, um,

[10:06] Like I went to a unit chain one that was great. Tons of people there, really good energy. I went to this like ZK one that, um, [10:13] had a really high production fidelity and it was clearly well thought through. I will say I don't see people ever paying attention to [10:22] panels or speak like speakers. Actually, I don't know if that's true, but like, I don't know that people pay attention when they're even if they are in an audience. [10:29] People are not there for the programming, like in any way. [10:32] They're there, their network, they're there to build connections, partnerships, make friends, see old friends. Yeah. Nobody wants to listen to programming. I haven't seen one time where there's like a full. How was your talk with the Blackbird guy? [10:45] Our talk was great. It was great. But like, I don't know that there's people really paying attention. And that's like mainstay. [10:52] I really don't know. The lights were very bright. I mean, the room was full, but they cut the room. Remember when we [10:58] did this last year. [11:00] It was a full, it was like seats to the back. Uh-huh. [11:03] This year it was like half, they like moved it way up. So there was really not that many seeds. But, and like, I just don't know that people are paying attention. And so you're kind of like... [11:14] What's happening here? I don't know how to fix that. I don't know how to like, what's this? What's the solve for that? [11:20] Yeah. Um, [11:22] Some topics that were... [11:25] This is what I was hearing a lot about. [11:27] Um, [11:29] AI? Might as well have been an AI conference. Like, [11:32] Everybody's talking about her.

[11:36] stable coins. [11:38] stable coins yeah i'm going to stable coins i yeah it's now boys club dot stable coins um what else did you i see have some other notes i don't want to take your notes here so there's two other notes that you had [11:51] I'm having a little bit of a mic issue. Can you hear me okay? [11:55] Yeah. [11:55] Okay. [11:58] ZK and identity stuff, a lot of ZK and identity stuff. [12:04] evans project provato.id cello has a new um self project that's about like identity and passports but using zk so there's some fun stuff that's going on there i also went to like a zk side thing so i also am [12:19] biased, I think, because I saw a lot of that programming. [12:23] Thank you. [12:24] Depend, you know, [12:26] Oh, stop side paneling, side events. [12:29] Stop paneling sidelines to death. [12:31] Thank you. [12:32] The solve is easy. Yeah. [12:35] I stayed at the Matcha 0x house, which was really fun. And they had some great programming, one of which was a design roast that was actually like. [12:44] Quite good. [12:45] And [12:48] like what I found was, oh, one of the more [12:52] well-dressed events and i was like this makes sense all the designers in the room right and i was like oh cool like everybody's kind of dressed cool here then i was like oh okay and that was really fun and it was like live like [13:05] Bobby was like pulling stuff up and people were talking through it. Um,

[13:09] A workshop format, I will say, is a great way to get people engaged. [13:13] I agree. It's a totally different energy. I think it's many ways harder because you really have to be [13:20] on your game to be able to do it effectively but right that that's but like that also assumes a smaller room [13:27] It does. And honestly, I think that that's the way to go. I think you design for a small room where [13:33] there's 20 to 40 people and it's like quality over quantity and people who are really engaged in the topic that you're [13:39] trying to work through or talk about. We had some really fun events. We did a brunch with PuffPaw that was just like chic and fun and great and had a wonderful time. They're so fun. And then we did a get ready with me with MetaMask, which got their new card. [13:56] And then went and used that card at Sephora, which was a really great time. And then... [14:04] Tap to pay. Tap to pay. And I... [14:08] As it was, as I was paying, I was like, this isn't going to work. Like, I just was like, this isn't going to work. And I was like, ready to work. And Kate has a video of me, like genuinely looking shocked. Like I was like, [14:20] Oh my gosh, it worked. And that was an exciting moment. Oh, what did you do, Sephora? [14:25] Just like some skincare stuff. And then... [14:30] It's my like NARS concealer. [14:33] Okay. [14:34] I love an artist concealer. And then, um, [14:37] We had a great party.

[14:39] with Space and Time and Polygon, [14:41] Our third annual party at... [14:45] East Denver at Fort Green Bar. And, um, [14:51] It was really fun. So I had a great time. [14:53] I had a great time. [14:55] Yeah, we both really... [14:57] When full port max extract. [15:00] I'm sorry. [15:01] It was a full port night. Nothing else needs to be said or heard about that evening. I just one one highlight moment that I do have to say, like, wow. [15:12] what can't she do for myself was, [15:15] It was late. [15:17] And, uh, [15:18] some blurry moments, but a clear moment for me was I'm sitting on the toilet of the [15:23] bathroom, like, like not fully clothed, like, you know, toilet seat gown. Because I had to take a call. It was just a chair. It was a chair for me, a present moment for me, sitting there, [15:35] Miranda called Miranda. Yeah. [15:38] What's the time? It's two. It's two, maybe 145. I knew I had the presence of mind. [15:44] Something needs to happen. [15:46] internal clock, which is incredible. Call Miranda. [15:50] Hey. [15:50] Great choice. [15:51] Great choice. How's it going? And she gave me some instructions, which was close out the bar tab, get the card, pass the card to Kate, who will then pass the card to you. And I have to say, [16:03] unbelievable stuff that I executed on it. Like, yeah. [16:07] Like, that is... I was like, I...

[16:10] I couldn't believe that I was able to operate at that level. [16:14] in the state that I was in. It was very impressive. I saw the... [16:18] The receipt come into my email. And then I got a text from Kate that said the credit card is on the table at our Airbnb. And I was like, look at that. Flawless execution. [16:28] Incredible stuff. There's more to be said there, but you'd have to be a literal personal friend of mine to hear it. So we're going to move on. Actually, one thing I want to do is just this. [16:40] Just in terms of Ethanbury, this is not actually Ethanbury related, but I feel like this tweet from Meltem is... [16:47] Uh, grounding. And I think something that as we enter a new cycle, as we go into, I don't know, I, I actually going back to this tweet, where are we at bull market, bear market, who knows, like truly don't know. It's so weird right now. And that this is my genuine asking. I don't know. And I need someone to tell me it's that, it seems like 56% say that we're in a bear market, but 43% saying we're in a bull market is like still quite a lot of people. [17:11] So I don't know. [17:13] I don't know where we're at, but I do think that this tweet from Meltem is worth highlighting. Cursed crypto narratives. We repeat every cycle. [17:21] Automated portfolio management. [17:23] Robo advisors, agentic trading, agentic trading being like the one that we're seeing now, tokenized social clubs and affinity groups, which not wrong. [17:34] Not wrong. Not wrong. Not wrong. And of course, I recognize ourselves in that, but we all...

[17:42] are [17:43] Living and growing every day. Tracking and trading carbon credits on chain, which is just like shots fired. Pew, pew, pew, pew. It's crazy. That was a crazy shot. And then angel list for X, democratizing asset class. [17:59] So I just think that's like, it's good to see and to know and to be really sobering. Yeah, totally. [18:04] Nice. And then just a quick little tiny shout out. This is my eth- [18:10] child-wife prom [18:11] anecdote. [18:13] beautiful woman, Miriam, came up to me at a moment of crisis. I will say, I was having a moment where [18:21] I you were having a moment. I was having a moment. I was having I was there. I think I witnessed this. [18:26] You, I had, I saw you after that, but it was fresh off the crisis moment. Okay. I grabbed some friend, I grabbed Miranda. And then like, there's like some girls that are starting to come around that are all just the lovely, like Layla and Mish and a bunch of really great people. We're kind of standing in a circle. And I was just like, I mean, I was having a cigarette and I was like, man, I was just like, I was just like in it. And. [18:47] Kind of like a little, not down, but like just like feeling, having feelings. And this beautiful woman came up to me and she was like, I just want to, and she was, she was like, I just want to tell you I'm such a big fan. [18:58] Oh, that's so nice. Boys club. And she, and then she proceeded to go on and say like, [19:03] This is the reason I've like, what was the reason I have like stayed? [19:07] in crypto and she has this job at Euler and like she was like I would have been gone if you guys weren't like if you guys weren't around and like the podcast and I think the meetups and I think she's found like a whole group of friends now

[19:19] through Boys Club Girls. And I was like, you know what? [19:24] that's her and she was so nice it was wonderful and i hadn't met her before so i just want to give a quick shout out there i love that i um [19:35] had... [19:36] I remember... [19:38] the next day, quite a few people telling me, we were all looking for you. [19:43] We were all looking for you. Like 10, 15 people were like, we were looking for you. I was like, what? I was there. [19:48] And then we did find each other. Okay, moving on. [19:53] Crypto reserve. [19:54] I'll share it. [19:57] So... [19:58] And Sunday, I'm like, I'm having a normal Sunday. I'm actually not a normal Sunday. I'd gotten back on Saturday. And I was trying to reacclimate to normal life. And part of that was like, I'm not going to be a very online. I'm not gonna be I'm just gonna like be home. [20:14] And then [20:15] trunk [20:16] posts this on Truth Social, which is basically... [20:22] him [20:23] saying what assets will be in what's called a u.s crypto strategic reserve and the the strategic reserve has been like edged for months and months and months now yeah and um no one it's there's been like a lack of clarity around like what it is what assets are going to be in it like [20:41] Who knows? [20:42] Who knows? But on Sunday, this post goes out. And [20:48] In it, he names by name XRP.

[20:51] Solana. Oh. [20:52] And ADA, which is Cardano. [20:55] And. [20:56] Everyone's like, wait, what? [20:59] What are you talking about? Like, and this is the, this bottom post is what goes out first. And then a couple hours later, [21:08] He's like, whatever, I had gotten the call from like all the people who would [21:12] And all the lobbyists were like, all the Bitcoin lobbyists were like, what the hell? What are you doing? Millions of dollars. Yeah. And what are you doing? And so he like follows up and he says, Bitcoin and Ethereum, obviously Bitcoin. Obviously. Obviously, Bitcoin and Ethereum and other valuable cryptocurrencies are going to be at the heart of the reserve. I also love Bitcoin and Ethereum. But it was just like a crazy moment. And it sent everyone into a tailspin, primarily because it was like, wait, what? [21:42] are what are and what are what are we doing you know that meme of um oh my gosh I don't know who he is but he's an NBA player and he's like looking at a piece of paper yes do you know what I'm talking about that was my feeling I was like I do what what am I talking about [21:57] And the thing about Cardano in particular is that [22:01] So I got into crypto in 2017 and there was a string of... [22:06] of coins or tokens or assets or whatever that were like hot then. [22:11] And 2017, I don't know, eight years ago? Was that eight years ago? [22:14] 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25. What are you doing to me? Yeah, eight years ago. [22:19] eight years ago. And

[22:22] And it was like in a basket of like a litecoin was another one where it was like, these are the ones. And it was like ICO and that cycle. And then everything crashed. And there has been still some people that are trying to. [22:36] make Cardano happen, but like it's been done for a really long time. Yeah. And, um, [22:43] But... [22:44] whatever someone got close to him like someone i respect it honestly i respect it i want to be i want something like this to happen for boys club where people are like [22:53] I don't know why, but someone else can see it. What? That's included? [22:58] And I could see that for us. So I respect it a lot. I wish all this were pumping the bags a little bit more. You would think that. [23:07] one more thing [23:08] One would think, but you know, [23:11] Who knows? Okay, so there was... [23:14] Just a few bit more bits on the strategic reserve. There was a really great article that Nick Carter wrote. [23:20] uh [23:21] had in Cointelegraph that or Coindesk, I don't know, one of them that was about [23:27] uh, eight [23:29] reasons it's a it's not a good idea basically and he is like a foolish guy yeah [23:34] very publicly, Bitcoin or... [23:37] per Trump, I think, openly as well. And like, so him coming out and post and publishing this opinion piece is [23:44] like, you know, you pay attention in those moments. Yeah. There's a few highlights that I want to pull out. One is this idea of what's easily done is easily undone.

[23:52] And honestly, I kind of feel like this is going to be true for a lot of the stuff that Trump is doing right now, where basically he's going around... [24:00] Congress. [24:01] he's not getting congressional authorization for purchase and [24:06] Nick's point here is that like [24:09] if [24:10] It's done. If he's doing it in this way, the next administration is not going to feel bound by a policy and could reverse it and like nuke the market in the process is what he says. And I feel like this is like this is actually a first principle. [24:25] that we should be remembering about a lot of the stuff that Trump is doing right now. [24:29] which is that if it's so easy to do it, it can be so easily undone. So I felt like this was a really helpful insight for me. This next one here, Bitcoin does not need the government. So [24:41] Uh... [24:42] the libertarian side of [24:45] the Bitcoin [24:46] movements, the Bitcoiners, [24:50] don't believe in the government's involvement in their [24:55] life, their money, their Bitcoin, definitely. So I think there's been this weird ideological shift that's been happening over the past, whatever, since Trump has started to embrace Bitcoin, where you see this kind of split where people are like, [25:09] where the Bitcoiners are like, well, wait, now we like want the government to do this strategic reserve. And like there's been... [25:18] Honestly, kind of like a little bit of a lack of integrity around like some of the ideals that the early Bitcoiners have had around like government's involvement in money.

[25:28] And... [25:29] So, but I do think that this line right here, a crypto reserve would transform Bitcoin from an apolitical asset into the plaything of a government. [25:36] And I think that that makes it, I don't know, like, [25:41] tainted in many ways and bring some risk to it that I feel like is getting [25:48] people are ignoring right now because they want it to pump so badly. They just want whatever good news. [25:55] It's short-sighted. It's short-sighted. Yeah. Yeah. It's really short-sighted. [25:58] On that note, everyone is... [26:01] kissing ass right now to try and get to this digital asset summit tomorrow i actually almost tweeted i almost texted you and was like how do we get to the digital and then i was like that's a stupid thing to text that's a delulu a one-on-one text you're gonna get a one-on-one yeah like how should we ask no like a literal like oh who should we text to get to the digital um yeah everyone is [26:31] is like, thank you to President Trump for the invitation. Like, right. [26:35] clear ass kicking, ass kissing move, but everyone's [26:39] who's anyone is going to the White House Digital Asset Summit on Friday. And I guess we'll see what happens from there. But... [26:45] It's been really interesting to watch. And then the last point here from Nick's article is about this idea of [26:52] um [26:54] Okay. [26:54] Trump, as we know, not only the Trump meme coin, but we know that he's

[27:01] buying ETH and buying all these assets and you know we we are able to see a lot of what he's doing on chain um [27:08] And I think that there's this idea that like, [27:12] He's also making some smart policy decisions, not smart policy decisions around people, personnel, people that he's putting into place, like the quintenets for the SEC or CFTC. And like there's some people that he's choosing or that his people are choosing from that are like. [27:29] are good decisions and positive for the crypto industry. But when you have that side by side to something like the Crypto Strategic Reserve that has a Cardano in it, it makes it, it all of a sudden, it pulls a rug out from under it where you're like, well, I don't know, it all kind of seems suspect now. [27:47] Yeah. And it taints it. Yeah. It taints it. And it taints the credibility of the stuff that could be arguably good for the industry. And so. [27:55] I think that that [27:57] Sucks because that's like further polarizes people and the reaction to it. [28:01] totally so okay crypto strategic reserve one thing um to shout out again we are doing a critter giveaway [28:09] Oh, yeah. We made a little critter, which is an air monitor that also has like a Tamagotchi-esque feature. And we are giving it away at the end of this live stream. So at the top of the chat, there is a... [28:26] There it is. [28:27] to fill out. There it is. A form to fill out to win it. Okay. J.D. Vance.

[28:33] face. [28:35] Thank you. [28:35] I fear, Miranda has also said this, is having the opposite effect of what people want, which is his face has been memed [28:43] Meme to hell. And... And... [28:46] Altered. [28:47] Uh-huh. In every which way you could possibly imagine. Uh-huh. There it is. There it is. And the the result is actually that, like, I saw real pictures of him yesterday and I was like, oh, [29:00] He's kind of, he's not bad looking because this was what was in my head. This is who he is to me now because my brain rot. [29:08] brain. [29:09] The ticker. [29:14] The ticker is cortisol face, which is so funny. Okay. Anyway, it's really funny. There's nothing else to say here. There's nothing else to say. There is a meme coin that happened, but I don't know that. We're not serious people, I think, which is so true. You're not serious people. The Pui's meme coin, that's based off of the... [29:35] I don't actually know where it was, where it came from. [29:39] originated i don't either it's interesting to see that i don't know their origin i will say i've of course been seeing all the jd vance faces and then for some reason this one really got me killed me killed me what is it so good oh funny it's something like i don't know funny because all of the all of the [29:58] the image altering that you've been seeing so far has been like a really close up of his face yeah but there's something about this one like being in situ that oh my god it's just like so funny oh my god yeah

[30:09] IMO. [30:10] It's incredible. [30:12] So good. Okay. [30:15] I've had fumble. I've had fumble. So if you saw... [30:20] this Tim Cook yesterday, he had two, he's the fourth, two, he's the fifth. Um, [30:26] Tim Cook announced the newest iPad Air, which had been teased for a while. Yes. Everyone's like, what's going to happen? What's going to happen? What's going to happen? This is so exciting. And then they said, oh, actually, it's, [30:38] the iPad Air that is basically the same [30:41] except it has like a [30:43] a slightly better processor and [30:45] this like keyboard thing and there's like a couple like [30:48] small [30:49] up to you. And everyone's basically like, [30:53] Cut. [30:54] totally I was texting my husband Dave about it and I was like can you like what's the deal and he was like incremental incremental incremental just incremental so I don't know what's happening there but I think something's wrong something's wrong the emoji um [31:12] Emoji campaign, absolutely really not good. Yeah. Something's amiss. We need to reset collectively on Apple. I don't know what or who needs to change that. Yeah. Above my pay grade, but it needs to happen. You know what? Okay, go back to the one that said like the packing. [31:30] what this... [31:32] a tweet that I kind of want to put together, but it's like too much of a deep cut is... [31:37] What's the call me by your name guy that came out as like, like people thought he was a cannibal or not. It was, it was, um,

[31:46] And he... [31:47] like had these leaked tweets. I think it was him. [31:51] that were like, [31:53] oh my god you're so sexy like like do you remember these tweets uh kind of yeah kind of and like people like and it's like really aggressive and like then people used it used it for like really dumb shit uh-huh okay if you can find it [32:06] that would be huge no worries no totally no worries if not but doing some sort of quote tweet around that anyway i gotta put it together it'll be in the drafts and we can work shopping i'm not fully getting the vision but no worries i trust that it can come together absolutely no worries um and then just a classic here honestly we've seen this before and recently with apple uh releases so you know they gotta deal with this [32:31] Okay, what's happening here? Tune.fm. Okay. [32:34] Yeah, we're let me just pull up my notes here. Big. This is a quite a big announcement. Honestly, I so Snoop Dogg moves is moving a significant portion of his catalog, including Death Row Records recordings to the. [32:51] tune.fm platform, which is like a Web3 music platform. [32:56] Which is surprising, honestly, that we're still doing music NFTs. But this is here and it's happening. So this is sort of. [33:05] Marking a shift, some may say, that we are finding some Web3-based alternatives that are legitimate for people. And hold on, let me turn my text off. And essentially, like, how TuneFM works, from my understanding, is that they have a token called JAM that you can pay artists directly. And you can do that for streaming, for tipping, for exclusive content. And my understanding is that the artist makes those decisions. Like, some music you can just stream.

[33:35] you have to pay for. And it's not really like any evolution on what we saw in the 2021, from what I can see, the 2021 market around music NFTs, but he's doing it. [33:47] Snoop's doing it. So, and the other thing that he's doing is releasing a new single called Spaceship Party exclusive to Tune FM. So, and then he said all the other things that everybody always says, which is like unique fan experiences, private gatherings, VIP events. Um, [34:02] And. [34:03] There is talks that tune.fm is in talks with major distributors like Universal and Sony. [34:09] We'll see. And like, you know, the message, it's like, [34:13] Get money back into the hands of artists, disrupt third-party intermin- inter- [34:20] intermediaries who are taking from the artists and taking from the consumers. My problem always is here that there's [34:34] The artists have no power right now. They're in no position of leverage. I mean, big artists like Snoop Dogg and whatever are, obviously. But, like, they're not that incentivized. If you're a big enough artist, you're not incentivized to make a change. Because you're like, whatever, I'm actually making enough from Spotify that, like, I don't need to rock the boat. And if you're a small artist, you don't have any incentive to make a change. [34:54] to or you have no power to make a change and like nobody really cares about where your catalog lives so i don't know i'd love to see it work it's just like we've seen this if you go to the next [35:04] slide here [35:05] We doing this again is kind of the sentiment that struck my heart. Yeah. I want it to work. I also am. I just got a flashback to a social fungal from, from Treadway Frown. Oh, let's hear it.

[35:21] Let's hear it. Related to this. Okay. Okay. So I... [35:26] Uh, [35:27] See, Evan. [35:29] Evan McMullen. She's with this guy. And I go up to her and I'm like, hey, what's going on? And like saying hi to Evan. And then she introduces me to this guy. And he, the first thing he says, I can't remember his name probably better that way. But the first thing he says was, or maybe she introduces him as that, but like very quickly in the conversation. [35:51] He or she says, [35:52] I did the first, uh, [35:55] I did the first like media NFT. I did the first music NFT. [36:00] - Uh-oh. - Asset, like in 2017, [36:04] Something about music on, oh, I put the first music on chain, I think. Okay. Like 2009, even 17. I want to say it was like six, it was early. Yeah. [36:12] Okay. And that was his introduction. And I'm like, okay, [36:16] Music NFTs. [36:18] Like music NFTs. I make a Cooper Tully joke. Yeah, totally. That was a lot of the replies to this. Yeah. Music NFTs. That's music NFTs. Because that was famously he. The meme. [36:27] the meme of 2021 tweeting music nfgs and like whatever tweeting that into existence and not a single laugh oh not a single absolutely brutal in fact like some offense taken oh no yeah not by evan of course but by this guy who who really did not think didn't get the joke didn't get the meme maybe did and didn't think it was funny or like whatever and i was just like okay

[36:57] cases. [36:59] Okay. [37:02] Oh, yeah. Oh, it's Adam Levine. It's Adam Levine. Oh, my God. This is so good. OK, yes. Adam Levine. It was revealed that he cheated on his wife, which gross. Ew. And then this is what came out. It's truly unreal how. [37:17] I can't remember what it's thrown out, but hot you are. It blows my mind. And I want to put this with the iPad, which would be a great tweet. I'm going to do it. [37:24] I'm going to do it. Thank you, Kate, for your service. Wow, you really had to dig deep because... [37:29] You... [37:30] I gave you the wrong person. So thank you. Yeah. She was very drunk. Totally. Okay. Back to you. [37:37] I'm on the spot. That's fine. Okay, Ayala, new Ayala poll. I actually, as I was digging into this, I was like, I don't think I could lose this poll. We can skip it. We can skip it. I think let's skip it. All that to say, I... [37:50] If you're unfamiliar with Ayala's game, [37:53] that's a journey that you will need to go on independently. And you should... [37:58] Often to that point, [38:00] and consent to that yourself. It's a not safe for work type environment. It sure is. Yeah. So all that to say that like, I am very attuned to the work that she does. The, the research. You are constantly bringing it up to be honest. The research work that she does. And, uh, she just had a profile in the Atlantic. That's very interesting and, um, just really fascinating stuff, but I, we can't talk about it. We, we, [38:25] Wow, what a tease. Sorry. If you want to talk to me about the work this year. Yes, totally.

[38:30] We could do a separate episode that people have to like subscribe to our patron or something. [38:37] Okay. On chain, TikTok on chain, TikTok. Okay. Um, [38:42] but lots to be said here around this. So I'm just going to actually [38:49] Start by reading the thread. So Alexis Ohanian. [38:53] who is wife to tennis player and star Serena Williams, how I like to refer to him. Also previously the co-founder of Reddit. And... [39:06] investor, tech entrepreneur. He tweeted yesterday, exciting news for the digital world. I'm officially now one of the people trying to buy TikTok US and bring it [39:15] on chain. TikTok has been a game changer for creators and its future should be built by them. Users should own their own data. Creators should own their audience, period. Frequency will empower these principles to become reality. And with transparency and accountability at the core, this new TikTok won't just be fairer. It will be in caps greater. [39:34] I love the vision. Genuinely. I am. I... [39:39] really want to see a reality where [39:43] social media on chain [39:46] actually exists, ownership of your audience actually exists. [39:50] data is interoperable and you can have a more personalized experience of your [39:56] social [39:57] life online. I am a huge... [40:00] I think it's...

[40:01] what I want to see in the world. And... [40:04] I hope that this will happen. I don't know. I'm sensing a but. I'm not going to go negative again because I was negative on the two previous slides I presented. [40:15] And he did have a social fumble, which... [40:19] He... [40:21] didn't say on chain as one word, which was a little bit of a, if you pull it back up with the three [40:27] Inglourious Bastards. [40:29] This is like, you explain it. A towel. It's a towel that he's not like... [40:34] In the culture. She's not in the on-train culture. Which, honestly, I... Maybe it's good. Maybe it's fine. It's totally fine. I think my question... There you go. My question here is, like, does he have the... [40:48] Thank balance. Okay, so let's talk about that. Let's talk about it. Okay, so he's announced with Frank McCourt that they're putting their bed in. There is... [41:01] Some [41:02] Discussion that it could go for as much as $50 billion. And why this media stir is happening now is basically January 19th, the app shut down. Trump gave an extension of 75 days for a sale to... [41:22] be executed. And so there were up against the clock, essentially, like it's going to happen or it's not going to happen. Other people that have been bidding for TikTok U.S. is tech entrepreneur Jesse Tinsley, also Mr. Beast, also Reed Ransner. So there's a few people who are throwing their hat in the ring.

[41:42] I don't know. It doesn't [41:44] feel likely that this is going to happen. Okay. Can I just tell you a little bit? I'm on Frank McCourt's, um, Wikipedia page. Um, [41:52] Mm-hmm. [41:53] It could. [41:54] And here's why. In 2004, he purchased a controlling interest [41:59] Oh, in the Dodger. Okay. So chairman of the Dodger, LA Dodgers. [42:03] He purchased it. [42:04] the controlling interest from [42:06] Fox Entertainment Group. Oh, I thought I read this quickly and I thought that he was a he had he had a partial share in Fox Entertainment Group. Like, [42:15] Rupert Murdoch's thing, but it doesn't appear to be the case. [42:18] Okay. He's part of the Dodgers. [42:21] He owns part of the Dodgers. I think a Dodger, I think the Dodgers are maybe a few, a few billion. I don't know. [42:28] I mean, I think there's a lot of men who own sports teams that doesn't. I don't think that that makes it any more likely. That's not a prerequisite for being able to buy TikTok. A lot of what I was reading is that like, [42:40] ByteDance is just like [42:42] gonna let it die. [42:43] Like, I don't know that they're... I don't know that they're... [42:48] incentivized by the purchase of $50 billion, which is crazy, but also an indicator of maybe why TikTok has been shut, is going to be shut down in the US because there is an ulterior motive besides money. Okay, one thing on here, Project Liberty, I'm going to do some digging on this after this show. In 2021, McCourt announced $100 million in funding for a nonprofit initiative called Project Liberty with the intention to, quote, construct a new internet infrastructure. The investment first went into funding the development of decentralized social networking protocol, DSNP.

[43:17] which is an open source code that developers can use to build social media. So I don't know, maybe he's in the game in a more meaningful way. I need to do some digging on Project Liberty. Do we know any... [43:26] Any Project Liberty comments? Oh, Reggie has some thoughts. We should have Reggie. [43:30] on [43:31] to talk about his thoughts on this. [43:33] I'm like, Reggie, here's the link. Okay. Hold on. I think it's less likely because Shona won't let it happen. I think if they said yes, they'd sell. [43:44] Any banquet line up just for whoever runs, but yeah. Okay. That's interesting. Okay. [43:50] Next up in... [43:51] Alexis Ohenian News. [43:54] He announced. [43:56] Yeah. Do you want me to take this? [43:58] Um, sure. I mean, I have done the research. Let's just totally collaborate on it. I think the way to do it, though, is for us to watch this video. [44:07] And also one thing I have to note from a PR perspective is that it was really strategic for him to... [44:13] the day before he announces this project that he said he put in a big bid for TikTok because I wouldn't have paid attention to this news if I hadn't been like, oh, I'm looking at his Twitter. Yeah. [44:25] um [44:26] Okay, I will turn this out. Darling dig skyrockets with millions of loyal users. From startup to Fibrisar, [44:33] Please welcome back to the show, Kevin Rose. [44:39] Former Dig Loyalist, Blunt to Reddit. [44:41] Dig versus Reddit. Ohanian teases the moment. Did you hear that awful snap? [44:46] We can turn it off. So...

[44:49] Basically, basically the news here, if people are not familiar, Dig was a news aggregator website that was really big in like 2004 time. And yeah. [45:04] essentially users could submit... [45:07] news stories and people would vote on those news stories. And then the big story here and the most popular would like populate on the front page, very similar to Reddit and basically him and Reddit, dig and Reddit. [45:19] were [45:20] huge rivals and obviously reddit won out on that and dig did not and they sold in 2012 they like famously changed the how it all worked and then like nope [45:31] everybody stopped using it, essentially. And so the big announcement here is that Alexis Ohanian [45:37] and Kevin Rose. Kevin Rose was the founder of Dig. [45:39] those two dudes who were [45:41] previously rivals, are now partnering up [45:45] They bought Dig and they are relaunching it. And so that's like the TLDR on what's happening. There's a bunch of stuff around like what they're going to bring to the table that's different this time. They're prioritizing moderators, which both of those platforms famously did not do. They're going to use AI. [46:03] et cetera, et cetera. But [46:05] Curious what you think here. [46:07] Yeah, I mean, I think like when you're thinking about what makes it different from last time, they're really leaning on this idea of AI. [46:16] moderating, but like doing the grunt work of moderating. So they've called it, how can we remove the janitorial work of moderators and community managers? Um, yeah,

[46:26] and convert what they do every day into more of a kind of director of vibes culture and community. [46:31] Two dudes, one dig. That is such an incredible ticker. Incredible stuff. [46:38] Oh, man. [46:42] Yeah, I think the question is like, [46:45] The only thing that makes these... [46:49] Like what makes these... [46:51] space is really electric is the people like [46:54] And what makes these like community spaces is like, is knowing that you're not in amongst AI slop, like knowing that you're in amongst people who have all sorts of whatever perspectives and are going to bring like their unique humor or insider information to the conversation. So I will be interested to see how, I don't know, they say they will use AI to litigate pointless fights. I don't know, maybe that would be useful. Yeah. [47:21] You know what goes to mind for me? [47:22] A few weeks ago, the bots on Blue Sky fighting with each other. Yeah. [47:27] Yeah. That's what comes up for me. I thought when I saw this news, I hate to say this, and maybe this is just like... [47:35] you know smooth brain stuff from working in crypto but i thought there was going to be some like [47:40] token distribution to moderators, which would have been really cool. When token, when token. But honestly, that actually makes sense. It's like moderators of these platforms. It's a thankless job and people do it for the love of the game. [47:55] And they are essential to this success. Like Reddit would not exist without moderators who are obsessively caring for these online communities. And they don't see any of the upside of it. So that's what I thought they were going to say. And maybe they will. And, you know, if...

[48:12] If they take that idea, I would love Natasha Hoskins dot. I would love a airdrop. Por favor. Okay. Let's move on. Crypt of the game. [48:22] uh is starting soon did you see did you see the drama that i haven't seen it i saw that i saw the tweet or telegram message that came in that said the drama is already starting but i haven't seen what the drama is so you you got to tell me okay i will tell you um but for those who don't know crypto the game uh survivor like [48:40] - Online survivor game. - Online survivor game that, [48:45] Uh... [48:47] is 800 people play it takes up your entire life last time i was doing it i was visiting my sister and you in nashville [48:55] And this time I'm visiting my sister in Florida and she called me yesterday and I was like, I have to tell you. [49:03] I'm playing that game. And like, I'm sure in my sister's head, she's like, [49:07] Are you playing this game? [49:09] all the time like why every time am i you're visiting me you're playing this game and i've seen her since and of course wasn't playing but she was like excited because she's obsessed with survivors so she can play via me and she was like great and i was like the votes at eight o'clock every night and she's like trad wife for kids and she's like great i'll put the kids down as soon as the kids are down we can see how the vote shakes out and i was like oh she's so supportive she's

[49:39] Final Vote, which is a live stream every night. [49:42] We're going to be chatting about what happened during the day. So the game starts on Monday, but you have to buy into the game regularly. [49:50] This weekend? Yeah, Friday, I think. If you played season one or season two, then you have an early buy-in, which I think happens tomorrow. But then for the rest of folks, it's on Friday. So if you didn't play season one or season two and you want to... [50:04] And it's after the final vote is our official companion show. It's a great time. We'll be doing it live on Twitter. We'll also be putting it on the podcast feed for people to listen to as well. So tune in. [50:18] Okay, I'm going to share the tab and present this with little comment. So context here is that- Okay, we have to move quick because I really want to get to my quick hits. Okay. [50:31] Um, [50:32] Oh my gosh! The comment is that Far Custer is involved this season and there was some drama with season two with a competing [50:44] social ecosystem that Farcaster is [50:48] It's [50:49] Honestly, it's already begun and it will only. Oh, I love this energy. This really this is like a full circle moment to my the beginning of what I said. [51:01] If you had 2x more agency, what would you do? What would you do? What would you do? Send the tweet. Send the tweet is what you would do. Wow. Send the tweet. Okay. We'll turn on. Okay.

[51:10] Oh, revenue of lost sleep. We don't have to talk about this. I would just have been thinking this, I think, is just an interesting thing. One minute on it. [51:16] Great. Are we going to have that one? Yeah, totally. [51:20] Jeff Morris Jr. has a venture fund. He posted this thing this morning that was about how basically like the series A, the [51:26] game is even harder than it has been. And I think we all know that venture [51:34] the venture business in general is really hard right now. But in particular for teams that are raising, he was talking about how like it's not just about [51:45] uh, it's not just about hitting revenue benchmarks. It's the speed at which you hit them, which is, wow. Okay. Yeah. Is, is perhaps more, um, [51:55] important right now. He says this [51:57] someone commented zero to 1 million in three to six months is far more compelling than 2 million in three years. [52:02] So, okay. I'm so glad I'm not raising venture capital because this would make this incredible. Oh, this spiral full spiral. Oh, full spiral. So I'm so glad I'm sorry that it happened. It's not. I just am so glad it's not me. [52:22] Okay, we're going to go through three quick hits here of what's just like happening on my internet. And we're going to weigh in on them and would love also for the chat to weigh in if there's things that they think here. So... [52:36] Meghan Markle, [52:38] has a new show.

[52:40] On Netflix. And this new show is called With Love, Megan. [52:46] And I [52:48] I have to tell you, my... [52:50] algorithmmytwitter.com [52:53] does not have very nice things to say about it. [52:55] It is not being well received. And I have seen some clips that I do have to say are so interesting. [53:03] insufferable, almost unwatchable, where you're like, actually, what's this? It sucks. What this brings up for me, like you ever watch something and you think, wow, my response to this is so ugly that I actually need to leave. I need to leave this part of the internet. It's definitely nice. Don't say anything at all. Exactly. But what I love here, this guy, Zach Peters, decided to give Meghan Markle's new Netflix show series a shot with Love, Call of Meghan. What in the 2015 Pinterest series am I [53:33] outdated or is that she feels outdated it feels out of touch it feels forced like [53:39] There's this one clip with her and... [53:42] Oh my gosh, Mindy Kaling from The Offense? [53:45] And Mindy Kaling is being really nice and says something around like, [53:49] Meghan says Meghan Markle. And Meghan goes, well, it's so funny that you say Markle. It's actually... [53:54] suffix or whatever it is, like Duchess of suffix or whatever. And she was like, it's really important to me because like, those are my children. And it's just like [54:01] Whoa. Like you're watching it and you're like, this woman has she is not cool in any. There's no part of her. [54:08] That is... [54:09] laid back or fun is the vibe is that so anyway give it a hate watch if you're looking for that type of thing if you're seeing positive comments send them my way i would love for my algorithm to be corrected oh sorry um no problem next one skims activation um kate said thought this was you natasha which is such a funny thing to say for so many reasons but um i love skims and

[54:35] If you know me at all, you know that that is true. I think we smoke about scams on every livestream since we've started. I should get equity in this company for the amount of money that I spend there and also how much I've shilled their bags. [54:47] I have to say, [54:49] I thought this was a flop. [54:51] Oh, really? There's only 270 likes on this tweet. [54:55] Okay, that's a flop. I think that's objectively a flop. But I do think that it's a cool, I like how it's kind of grotesque. I think it's very cool. I just think whatever they did around it didn't work. Should have been a video. I don't know, Kim should have been there. There's a lot of workshopping that needed to happen. This alone didn't move the needle. This alone did not move the needle. I will say Swim is coming out March 7th. So some marketing did work because it's in my brain. [55:23] And you know where I'll be. [55:25] Skims.com. [55:26] Dot com. Yeah. Last thing here. Last thing here. And then we can close it out here. [55:32] Have you heard the term the paddock slut? [55:34] No. Oh my God. I am dying over this. This is taking up my entire feed and I couldn't be happier about it. So basically... [55:44] The term the paddock slut is like now a shorthand for... [55:49] Carlos Sainz, who I love, who was previously, this is F1 for those who don't know. He was previously on Ferrari. He got booted because Lewis Hamilton took his spot. And he then is now at Williams. [56:01] The new F1 drag to the room. - He's at Williams? - He's at Williams. And honestly, Dina, you know what it made me feel?

[56:08] We need to fire up a group chat with the Kraken folks and we need to do another event with them so that me and Carla Sons can get the same room. [56:15] We need to make it happen. Because of social engineering. I'm going to close the deal. I'm going to close that deal. Okay. So he went to Williams. [56:25] And this season of F1, F1, drive to survive, a big storyline is what is he, where is he going to land? Like, where is he going to, because he's an excellent driver. And so basically in that, one of the other drivers... [56:39] says, you know, the paddock slut. [56:42] Carlos Sainz, because he's shopping around his deal to everybody. And he's out there trying to get the best deal he can. Oh, the tagline. So it became a tagline. But then the tagline has now... [56:51] totally taken off and has a life of its own. And he's doing like an insanely executed press tour that I respect so much. He's on this show with like, what's his name? The bald guy who cooks [57:04] um stanley tucci he's doing like he does and those clips are going viral and then that now the sentiment is oh my gosh this man is actually like number one like patient zero of male victim of misogyny like he is actually the the poster child of talking inappropriately inappropriately about a man because [57:28] There's so much love for the paddock slot out there. And anyway, it's great. If you see a tweet about it, I highly recommend liking and bookmarking it because your entire feed will become it and it will be a great day for you.

[57:44] Lastly, the winner of... [57:48] - - [57:49] The winner of our... [57:51] Critter. [57:52] is Amy. [57:54] - Amy. - Which is a great winner. - Great winner. [57:57] Amy, we will get your address. Thank you for tuning into Dumb Bitch Hour. We love to [58:04] We love to see it. We we here for you. And that's it. [58:09] I'm ending the stream. Great. And it takes a second. So still here. [58:16] Okay, that was DBH. Join us live on Twitter every Wednesday at noon. Or here, I guess.